Time to pull back the curtain…

Let’s see what they are hiding behind these “book-a-call” high pressure zoom “meetings”.

Does anyone really believe these cheap (or free) courses will teach them how to make six figures selling high-ticket programs?

(Stick with me to discover where the “real” money comes from)

You’d probably get better information from ChatGPT than one of the free courses.

Or they are a smokescreen to upsell you into one of the high-cost-courses.

What’s even crazier is the fact you could pay Five Thousand to $25,000 to these course creators…

… and STILL NEED TO FIND A JOB!

You’d have to:

Apply to dozens or even hundreds of jobs to find one who’ll hire you without any experience:

Practice and memorize the product and script.

Spend months working crazy long hours trying to make the $10k a month dream.

(Now you might want to sit down for this part)

Look at the national average:

It’s 17 DOLLARS AN HOUR!

(From ZipRecruiter the #4 Job site)

Imagine spending $5k to $25k to ‘learn’ remote sales and end up making less than a high schooler working for McDonald’s

“What’s This Scam All About?”

Tucked away on the second floor of a normal looking office building next to the Mall of America in Bloomington Minnesota…

I have only seconds before the call would be transferred to my desk.

The phone startled me.

Because I was “UP” next.

Excitement and nerves fought for control of my mind.

This was sort of like “Boiler Room” the movie ( but without the high pressure or breaking any federal laws 🙂

Here’s how it worked…

The owner would run newspaper ads all over the country for “starting your own business”

Then his salespeople (me included) would take the calls and make a 45-minute pitch we had to memorize.

And this was not including questions.

After the call we would send them a heavy book in the mail with the proposal. (yes, snail mail)

We spent most of our time following up trying to get them back on the phone.

(No email or texting, this was before the internet)

As you might have guessed… most people would avoid our calls.

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But I didn’t care because it was all part of the process.

And I was making $1,000 off a $10k deal (Yes 10% is still the going rate all these decades later)

This was a lot of money for a kid in the 90’s

And it was fun.

I loved getting the calls the other reps hated.

Like the guys who would act all tough and angrily say…

“What’s this scam all about?”

Why did I WANT these calls?

Because…

I’d have guys like this begging me to give them a 45-minute pitch after “flipping the script” on them.

I normally hated my jobs because

I had to punch a clock.

But here I could go to TGIF Fridays for lunch, get drunk (by accident of course) not go back to work and never even get questioned about it.

This was the beauty of working for commission.

I can hear you wondering…

“What did he do to ‘flip-the-script’ on them so easily?”

The trick to sales is simple because 99.9% of every salesperson does and says the same things.

When you do (and say the exact opposite) you not only take control of the conversation… you flip them to eating out of the palm of your hand.

This flips them from questioning you… to pre-qualifying them.

This is called a “Pattern Interrupt”

When someone would say…

“What is this some sort of a scam?”

What does every salesperson try to do?

They try to explain why it’s not a scam.

This puts the prospect in control because they are answering the prospects questions.

What did I do?

Simple…

I agreed.

When asked if it was a scam…

I’d say:

“YES“

Here’s the important part:

Then I would… shut up.

Because the next person to talk would lose control.

They would always change their tune from grumpy interrogator… into putty in my hands.

They would ask humbly, “What do you mean?”

I’d say…

“You already know it’s a scam,

so what’s the point in explaining it to you?”

(Now I’m asking the questions and I’m in control)

Again, I would not speak.

And they would literally start begging me to tell them about it.

I’d never let them off the hook that easy.

(No matter how cute and furry they sounded)

After explaining how it’s a 45 minute presentation to show how it all worked…

I’d tell them it didn’t seem like they are serious and I don’t want to waste my time.

It was fun watching these “tough guys” squirm on the phone (begging me to pitch them) on a business that costs them $10,000.

Most of them never found the courage to invest but I didn’t care.

Because you don’t need to find many actual investors to make good money.

I didn’t make $100,000 but I also didn’t work 80 to 100 hours a week (taking 5 hour lunches 🙂

But why am I telling you any of this?

I’m NOT trying to sell you on becoming a high-ticket closer.

It’s the opposite in fact.

If I hadn’t gone through this, I wouldn’t be able to see through these remote closer schemes.

And most importantly I wouldn’t have seen how to slip into the ‘money position’ like the owner of the business I worked for in Minnesota… the day I got “the email”.

If I didn’t know how these high-ticket businesses worked from the inside, I wouldn’t have given a second thought to what I’m about to show you.

And you wouldn’t see how you can make 8 times more than these remote closers without learning how to “close” or ever taking a single phone call.

Instead of forking over thousands upon thousands of dollars to learn how to get a job like I had in Minnesota…

Imagine investing in a business more like a high-ticket “franchise”.

This makes you like a franchisor and franchisee all in one because you can own your own business AND “re-sell” the business.

Instead of “working” for the business you’d be the business owner (without all the normal headaches).

Without all the expense of an office, phone lines, secretary’s, office furniture or the hassle of finding good salespeople.

The phones are already manned by professionals doing all the hard work for us…

Just like I did for the owner of the business in MN.

He just ran ads and then sat back and let us bring in all the money for him.

Ready for the crazy part?

Instead of a measly 10 percent like these YouTubers tell you is a high commission rate…

We Get 79.5% as Owners.

How would it feel having these remote closers working for you, but getting almost 80% of the commission instead of a tiny 10% (while they do all the hard work)?

The best part…

We never work the phones ourselves.

Imagine you paid one of these course creators $5,000 to $25,000 then spent weeks looking for a job… months memorizing the script… finally you make a $10k sale.

I’m not saying $1k commission is something to sneeze at…

But…

Now look what happens when you own the high-ticket business instead of working for it.

One of your sales people (who are already trained) bring in 2 – five thousand dollar sales ($10k)

Instead of making one thousand dollars…

You make $8,000

Now you’re getting paid like an owner… (a true investor).

While someone else does all the heavy lifting.

Do you see why I never have to try and “sell” this to anyone?

The Numbers don’t lie.

True investors immediately jump on profit margins like these.

It’s immediately obvious if you’re dealing with an investor or a ‘business opportunity seeker’.

The serious investor only wants to know what’s needed to get started and how to run the business.

The biz opp seeker will ask questions looking for any excuse why it won’t work for them.

(This is why I don’t even make this offer to most people)

They fear risk.

While a business investor looks for the highest reward with the lowest risk.

They get excited when they see a low downside with high upside potential.

Because they know everything is risky.

And the highest risk of all is doing nothing ( or never taking any risk).

Because the day you get the bill for never taking any risk you’ll know the true cost… but by then it will be too late.

If you only promote cheap programs you end up struggling because you are trying to convince the wrong people to become something they are not.

If you’re asking, “Where am I going to find investors?”

Then you didn’t see how we are flooding our autoresponders with hot leads using a little-known technology.

Why will this work for you

when all the others failed?

Around 30 years ago my mentors failed miserably because they were trying to build their businesses like 99% still do today.

Everything changed the moment their mentors handed them the *keys* to MAKE Millionaires.

Notice I didn’t say “… to make millions”.

Don’t get me wrong, they did make millions but the ONLY reason they made any money is because they Helped others make a lot of money.

The “key” to everything was in changing their approach.

(Like I did in Minnesota)

Instead of begging and pleading others to look at their business opportunity (like everyone still does today)…

They switched their approach from talking about the opportunity to telling the story of their mentors (because they didn’t make ANY money yet) but their mentors did.

Who’s going to listen to a “make money deal”

from a broke unemployed auto mechanic who had to borrow money for his $47 distributor kit?

My mentor Robert would tell people about his mentors’ $62,000 (monthly) uncashed check.

He’d ask if they would like to meet him.

Then his mentor would do all the “closing”

This took him from making NO money (doing what everyone else was telling him) to making $10,000 in his first 45 days.

Now this is what I’m offering you.

This way you don’t have to do any of the “selling” persuading or closing yourself.

Instead of trying to beg, plead (or spam) people to look at your business opportunity…

I’m handing you exclusive lifetime rights to use this private (members only process)

This builds your list fast and gives you the exact process to sort out the real investors (and buyers).

This is the opposite of pushing biz opps like everyone else does.

You don’t need to sell harder…

You need a message that

makes selling unnecessary

Before I show you how to do this, I’ve gotta’ come clean…

This is only an experiment.

I’m not crazy.

I do not plan on giving this away forever (without paying me a lot of money).

I am building a private, members only (paid) site.

But I’m not even sure if this will work or not.

Which is the only reason you’re getting the rights for nothing (right now).

How am I supposed to know if there are enough serious people left?

This is the only way to find out.

If I don’t find enough serious people, at least you will have the training on how to build your list fast.

(If you grab it before I pull this down.)

This way, you can offer anything you want on the backend (if you can’t afford owning a high-ticket business).

And I’ll use it myself to find high-ticket investors.

Either way, moving all of this to a very expensive paid membership can happen at any moment.

But if you jump on this now you will be grandfathered in for life.

There are no fake scarcity timers on this page.

I reserve the right to pull this without notice.

If you’re serious I’d take action on this today.

If you’re just curious then I’d suggest you at least start building your list by going back and reading my first two emails.

Now I’m going to level with you because you’ve made it this far and it’s obvious you are a serious entrepreneur no matter what results you have (or have not) seen yet.

I can show you a million cashier’s checks and testimonials but this will NOT WORK FOR YOU unless you start doing something different than everyone else.

Here’s what no one is telling you…

The people you see making the big money (even the ones you’ll see in a moment) not only have a list but they have a relationship with that list.

Getting leads and traffic is easy when you have access to the technology I showed you before.

But converting cold traffic (or leads) into buyers is the real skill nobody wants to talk about.

They all want you to believe you can just throw cold traffic at a sales page (they give everyone) and you’ll get lots of sales.

But nothing is further from the truth.

And you already know this if you’ve tried.

This is why my other mentor Alan struggled until he learned how to give his team a different approach.

The worst part is they blame you for not working hard enough after you follow THEIR old and outdated strategies.

Like spamming the same affiliate link (everyone’s spamming) to more social media sites will magically start working.

This is what I fixed for you.

Like my mentors’ mentors fixed for them.

I’m not giving you a blueprint to build your own funnel.

You don’t need to find a product.

You don’t need a mentor.

It’s not a funnel… it’s a process using a completely new approach modeled after decades of successful businesses.

I’m handing you a process that makes selling unnecessary by solving your prospects biggest problems.

This is how this process sorts out the real players for you.

You don’t need to try to sell, convince, beg or motivate anyone ever.

You simply sit back and watch who follows the simple instructions (and who doesn’t).

If someone isn’t even willing to learn how to build a list of hundreds of subscribers in a matter of hours without paid (or free) traffic…

Is this someone you would

want to do business with?

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When you sort out those who “get it” instead of trying to “sell” everyone…

You get to skip all the work trying to build a relationship with the wrong people.

Because you already solved the biggest problems for the right people…

And they will love you for it.

You don’t have to rent a Lambo before you’ve made any money because you can “borrow” our proof.

This is how my mentors helped thousands of regular people make money… some of them hundreds of millions.

Twin brothers took this strategy they learned from my mentor Robert and created an 800 million dollar company.

(They gave Robert credit for teaching them how this business works)

This is the same strategy I’m handing you.

I’m not locking it behind some paywall (yet).

I’m not giving you the strategy then leaving you to come up with the product and build out a funnel.

(This is what guru’s do. They sell you a course but you still need to come up with a new idea, product and build it all yourself)

I’ve done ALL of this for you already.

Who else is doing this for you?

Use it, and…

You’ll never again waste your time with a bunch of tire kickers and liars…

Because this process reveals everyone’s true colors.

From those who take action and those who don’t.

When you switch to this approach everything changes.

And you become an owner in the money position.

Not a ‘business opportunity’ seeker begging and spamming your biz opp all over the internet like a crazy person.

Which one are you?

Or…

If you haven’t made a lot of money yet and you’re sick of hearing how it’s all in your “mindset” …

Think about this:

What do you think is the most powerful way to change your mindset…

A – Telling yourself you’re a millionaire in the mirror

Or …

B – Watching your first sales coming in after hundreds of leads flood your autoresponder in a matter of hours?

Which will have a bigger

effect on your “mindset”?

Why would you even need to try and “convince” yourself it’s possible if you see it working for you with your own eyes?

Mindset guru’s tell you to imagine yourself reaching your goal.

The problem for most people is they’ve never made any money without going to work and punching a time clock.

What if you didn’t have to “lie to yourself in the mirror”?

This is about to get exciting (if it *clicks* for you).

Using this process to make $10 is the EXACT same process to make $800, $2,400 or $4,000.

Now let me ask you a serious question…

Can you at least see yourself making

your first $10 using this process?

Here’s how it works…

The front-end filtering process feeds the back-end sorting process.

It starts by filtering out the buyers with a low-ticket front-end offer (NOT a business opportunity).

This is a hot offer because it solves a huge problem everyone struggles with.

Which is why it’s already pulled over 3,000 sales:

Then it sorts out the high-ticket investors from within the low-ticket buyers.

If you’re looking for a “buy” button to invest in this high- ticket business you won’t find one on this page.

I obviously don’t use the company provided sales page (you know why if you read my other emails)

And I don’t give out the 800 number to everyone.

(Screenshot from the sales page they gave me)

I understand most of you reading this cannot afford to invest in a high-ticket business right now.

And I don’t want to take any food off your table.

Instead of playing games and pretending to drop the price I’m just going to rip the band aid off.

I’m going to show you how much it is before I tell you how you can contact me if you want your own high-ticket business because I only want to work with serious people.

Before I do, just remember you can always start building your list with the front-end offer and use one of those cheap biz opps you haven’t made any money with as your back-end offer (if you can’t afford this type of investment).

It will take a lot longer to make the really big money but at least you will be on your way.

Then you can save up those little commissions until you have enough to join this high-end enterprise.

There are 3 investment levels. (These include the admin)

The highest level is $5k and pays you $4,000

The next level is $3k and pays you $2,400

And the lowest level is $1k and pays you $800

I tell everyone, if you cannot afford to invest in this business AND also have money to invest in building your list…

Don’t Do It!

I’m looking for long term business partners and this will not work for you if you put your last dollar into this.

I also tell everyone if they can invest to get in at the highest level they can.

They think I’m saying this because I will make a bigger commission but I’m actually losing money if you start at the highest level.

Why?

Because if you joined at say $1k and you found an investor who joins at $5k I would make the difference.

You would only make $800 because that’s your level.

And I would make $3,200

(Unlike others where the admin keeps ALL the extra money)

At $5k there is a $4,000 commission attached.

(You see 4 – $1,000 money orders because this credit union only had money orders up to $1,000)

You get $800 and I get the rest ($3,200) for doing nothing.

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So I have no problem when most people start at the lowest level.

Do not contact me with questions about this if you cannot afford it. Prove to me you are serious and start building your list with the front end offer and we can talk about it then.

This private email address is ONLY for my high ticket business partners.

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Because you are serious if you are still reading this I will give you my private cell phone number. But do not call me. Text only: 727-

If you have questions about building your list and the front end offer reply to the email I sent you with the link to this page. (This is a different email address than the one above I reserve for my high-ticket clients)

Skeptical?

I don’t blame you… it’s a lot of money.

But here comes the fun part…

Think about how making a one time investment could bring you big checks in the mail like these over and over and over again:

How many of these would you need in a week or a month to completely change your lifestyle forever?

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If you’ve never made a lot of money all at once it’s really hard to believe it’s possible.

And let’s be honest…

Most people cannot afford this…

But we are not looking for most people.

I used to try and “sell” everyone until I discovered a man who went from making $6.50 as a garbage man to making $3 Million a month.

He taught me it was easier to make a lot of money in a short period of time than it is making a little money over a long period of time.

Read that again… I did not write it backwards.

This is the exact opposite of what everyone thinks.

If you think it’s crazy I totally know how you feel…

This one took me a minute to wrap my mind around.

But because he’s made a million dollars in an hour (not a typo).

I figure we may want to at least find out what he means:

He said it’s easier to find buyers for an expensive offer than it is to sell cheap products.

This is because the people (who can afford high-end offers) don’t need to be convinced (or “sold”) on letting their money make them more money.

In fact, they are always on the lookout for ways to put their money to work for them.

Which is why they make a lot of money doing very little work themselves.

He discovered this because his best recruit was already a rich oil man. He asked him why he joined his team when he was already rich…

He said, “I’m always looking for ways to put my money to work.”

This changed his whole outlook on business forever. He now has offers of $250k to a million dollars.

With poor people you need to beg and plead with them to buy some $10 course.

This is because they are afraid of losing money and they only look for ways it might not work for them.

And you have to work way harder because you need to make a lot of sales to make a little money.

But you only need a couple sales a month to make monster commissions with a high-ticket offer.

Your business will completely change the day you stop trying to convince turkeys to become eagles and simply give the eagles what they ALREADY want.

We structure your business to filter out the buyers and repell the wannabees.

Join us and you can finally stop “selling” because this reverse approach makes selling unnecessary.

We offer a low ticket offer to find the people with money who want to make their money work, so they don’t have to.

And you’d be surprised how many of them there are out there…

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Imagine just one of these coming into your mailbox a week… or even once or twice a month.

How many would you need to change your lifestyle forever?

Do you seriously think NOBODY will want a business like this?

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These people are quietly cleaning up behind the scenes of all the other high ticket remote closer programs without taking ANY of the sales calls themselves.

Because they have a team of professionals working for them while they are out living their best lives.

Of course you can always tell yourself you’ll do this one day and just keep buying into the lies about getting rich in your sleep.

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If you just skimmed down here to find the buy button to see how much it is… then this isn’t for you.

Most people won’t even follow the simple process to fill their autoresponder with hundreds of leads.

But if you just wanted to learn how to get the money out of your list like I promised…

Click the button below to answer a few quick questions to help me understand how to help you better and you’ll immediately be sent to the training for free (for now)

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It seems like all these biz opps are begging for brokies by claiming you don’t need any money talent or time.

Is today the day you stop wasting your time chasing losers and start targeting real investors who don’t need convincing because they already get it?

What if you only got one high ticket commission out of 1,000 subscribers?

That’s .001 conversion rate or 1 tenth of 1 percent conversion.

It’s a fraction of a one percent conversion.

Would you trade $300 for $800?

Or $300 for $2,400?

What about trading $300 for Four Thousand Dollars?

If you’re saying, “Of course!”

Seriously ask yourself…

Do you think if a thousand people see what you just saw…

Not even ONE of them would jump at owning a business like this?

Of course…

You can always wait and kick this decision down the road like you probably have before.

Have you ever passed on something you regretted later?

Maybe someone reading this right now (just like you) will be making the commission off of you once you decide to join us later.

Or you could be the one sitting in the owner’s seat making the big money from those who decide to get serious before it’s too expensive to join my paid group.

I understand most people (99%) cannot afford to partner with me in this high-ticket business right now.

This next part is ONLY for those who can afford to invest in a true high-ticket business:

I’m not going to show you the sales page they give us to promote this (and you know why if you’ve been reading my emails).

(I don’t give out the phone number until I’ve confirmed

someone is a real player and not just another pretender.)

But this is what I’ll do for you…

Anyone who partners with me (now) will get full lifetime rights to the email copy and warm-up page even AFTER I begin charging an enormous MONTHLY fee.

The ONLY reason I’m not charging for these rights today is because I need your help reviewing the process.

I want to work out any bugs before I put on a large price tag.

This part is for those of you who want to invest but just can’t afford it right now.

(We don’t want to take any food off your table)

Maybe you’re only reading this because I promised you how to “get the money out” of your list on the previous page.

To get access to that training just let me know why you wouldn’t invest in this business if you DID have the money.

(I will show you how shortly)

For those of you who want to invest but can’t afford it right now I haven’t left you out…

I’ve already handed you the absolute best way to build your list fast even if you’re starting from zero.

Now take one of those cheap biz opps you haven’t made any money with and use that for your back end offer.

It will take you a lot longer to get the really big bucks but at least you’ll be on your way.

When you make enough money from your mid ticket offer you can invest in the high-ticket business.

If you’re thinking you “might” be able to scrap the funds together…

DON’T DO IT!

Take what little money you have and invest it into building your list.

I’m looking for long-term partners and if you can’t afford to invest in your list and this high-ticket business this will not work for you.

If you’ve seen the whole process you’ve noticed…

The front end feeds the back end and *sorts* out the true investors.

This is what a real system looks like unlike the fake systems adding unnecessary steps just to take more of your money.

True investors see this right away. Which is why I never need to “sell” them on the idea.

This is by invitation only…

I don’t need to find investors because these types of investors are looking for something with these profit margins.

Once they see it they usually want to get started yesterday.

They instantly realize they don’t even need a 1 percent conversion rate to make more in a week than most people make all month.

It’s really an easy decision but only IF you have the money.

FAQ

How much is it?

There are 3 tiers

$5k level (including admin fee) pays $4,000

$2k

$1k level (including admin fee) pays $800

Plus a cc processing fee for the admin fee

Don’t worry if you can’t afford this right now.

You can always add one of your own offers to the backend

Or a cheaper one you’ve been thinking about joining.

Then when you can afford it you can join us.

But if you are thinking of putting your last dollar into this…

DON’T

I realize I’m losing money by telling you this but I don’t want you to invest in this if you cannot afford to also build your list because none of this works without feeding the front end of this system.

And I need your story of how it works for you more than I need your money.

I’m thinking long term when we have hundreds of people who haven’t made any money online making their first sales inside of a week.

Because then I will be charging a lot of money PER MONTH to get what I’m going to show you when you are ready.

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https://onlinetrainingwithbob.com/ocm_presentation1667666621320

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What do I have to do?

This is the best part.

If you followed how we structured the front end offer you know how your front end offer can simply feed this backend offer. Remember this is a true system. Each part fits with the next. Theres an order and a reason which makes it a real system not just some catch phrase.

Where do I get traffic?

This is also set up on the front end offer. This was in my first email. If you somehow got here without learning how we flood your autoresponder without paid or free traffic you’ll want to find my email right away.

Is this cash-gifting?

No. Because you’re investing in a business not simply sending people money without receiving a product. They take care of the administration and we pay them a fee from the investment made by our new partners. They are providing the phone number and hiring the professionals to take calls for you.

Is this a ponzi or MLM

No. This is a downside in my opinion. There is no recurring income. But you do make the difference if someone joins one of your team who hasn’t upgraded. Example if you join at the $1,000 level and someone joins you at the $5,000 level you would only make $800 and the rest of the commission will roll up to me.

As Promised here are some members results: